The doomsday party in “Summer House” Season 8 is still raging and so is Carl Radke. He and Lindsay Hubbard are continuing their conversation about her supposedly not being “soft” and “tender” toward him.
“You’re really, really good at playing victim. Like, you don’t even give a f*ck about my emotional feeling around this,” he tells her. She walks up because she’s sick of his bullsh*t and rejoins the party.
Danielle Olivera checks up on Lindsay, who tells her, “He wants me to be somebody I’m not and it’s like, embarrassing … this is not the time to be soft and tender when we’re talking about your career.”
She rants that Carl doesn’t want to hear any questions from her and expects hugs and praises only. “You’re never going to be that person,” Danielle says. Lindsay is not even offended and answers, “That’s what I said to him!”
Gabby Prescod joins the conversation and brings a large jug of liquor with her, which Lindsay needs. Danielle tells her friend, “You want something out of him that he is not providing and he is putting that burden on you more often and that’s not f*cking fair.”
“I’m f*cking done coddling. This man had ten months of chilling at home, like, trying to think about what he f*cking wanted to do … I don’t have a coddle left in me,” Lindsay rants.
Lindsay is living her best life at the party but Carl is still sulking and goes inside. “I don’t bounce back like she does,” he tells the cameras. “She can go across the party now, drink the night away, no problem. I’ve got to sit in this feeling for the rest of the night — fear, anxiousness — it’s one of the loneliest moments I’ve had ever in this house right now.”
Lindsay Hubbard and Carl Radke fight… again
The next morning, things are still tense between Lindsay and Carl and their trucker hats.
They attempt to talk about last night and Lindsay tells Carl that he’s not being realistic in his expectations of her. “I ask a lot of follow-up questions based off of the nature of who I am as a person, who I have always been as a person. You’re saying that you don’t ever want to hear my advice or my questions,” she tells him.
“I do but I want something different and I need something different than the coaching and the questioning,” he responds. “I don’t want that in my wife or fiancé. I don’t. And I didn’t think I signed up for that with you.”
Lindsay is agog. “That was rude.” He tells her that she makes him feel a certain way and she’s like, nope, we’re not doing that again. Carl asks her if she trusts that he’ll get his career sh* together. She assures him that she does. Meanwhile, Kyle Cooke goes inside to use the bathroom and stealthily spies on them.
He hears Carl telling Lindsay that he wants her to say, “Yes babe, you’re a rock star. You’re awesome!” Carl feels like he and Lindsay are not on the same page and he wants to take a look at their relationship.
“Like, you don’t want to get married?” she asks him. “I didn’t say that,” he answers. But then he adds, “I definitely start having second thoughts about stuff.”
Lindsay asks Carl what he needs from her and he wants a hug. She gives him one and he keeps asking, “One more squeeze. Harder.” It’s all so cringe.
Carl Radke gets real with Kyle Cooke
Back in the city, Carl and Kyle meet up. “I’m just at a loss. Like, we’re getting married in two and a half months at this point and we are just unable to resolve conflict or communication challenges, like, in a healthy manner,” Carl tells Kyle.
He recounts how he and Lindsay arrived home after the Hamptons and things got bad. According to him, she closed the door in his face and they haven’t talked since. “How do I even tell people like, how our summer was? The only person I was tense and didn’t get along with was my fiancé I’m supposed to be married to in two months.”
“We haven’t had sex for three weeks. We’re very rarely intimate,” Carl says. He tells Kyle that Lindsay’s whole attitude is that she doesn’t want to change for him. “That is a revelation that I’ve maybe been running from since the beginning of our relationship.”
Kyle asks Carl to take a good look at his relationship with Lindsay and see if he’s ever going to get what he needs out of her.
Carl Radke drops a bomb on Lindsay Hubbard
Carl comes back to the apartment with a look of defeat and Lindsay tells him that she doesn’t want to fight with him.
“We’ve had so many conversations last fall where I was your sounding board for everything you were trying to figure out with Loverboy, whether you wanted to stay or quit,” Lindsay says.
“And then all of a sudden, the last two weeks, your needs changed, which is totally fine. But simultaneously, when your needs changed, it feels like you started assuming the worst in me.”
Carl accuses Lindsay that she tried to record a fight they had the Sunday prior. She doesn’t deny it and tells him she didn’t want to go to Montauk so that they could spend quality time together. However, according to her, he started berating her for all the things that were wrong with her.
“I turned around and said, ‘You’ve known me for eight years. Like, I’m that same person that you proposed to. I’m confused.’ And then you then said, ‘Honestly, I don’t know why I proposed to you,'” Lindsay says.
“At that point, I said, ‘I should start recording you because you’re saying really nasty things to me,'” she continues. She points out that she didn’t record anything.
He turns things around by telling Lindsay, “You’re really gifted at playing victim. You’ve been gifted at that since I’ve known you. It is your show that I just pay rent to be a part of.
She argues that she’s been trying to be a good partner to him and asks for grace. “I give you so much grace, it’s not even funny,” is his response.
“Look back at your text messages. Look at the things you’ve said to me. I don’t think you trust me. I think you think I’m going to relapse,” Carl says. “We are supposed to be ready in two and half months and I’m not ready to do that.”
Lindsay Hubbard tries to fight for her and Carl’s relationship
Lindsay thinks it’s bullsh*t that Carl wants to just give up. “Why do you think that they say relationships take work?” she implores him. He tells her that their disagreements are not normal and that he doesn’t want to go to counseling with her forever.
“I don’t understand. You’re just ending things because that’s easier than actually both of us putting in the hard work that relationships require,” she argues.
Carl lists all the things that he’s not getting from her, such as her thinking he’s too sensitive and not manly enough.
It’s clear to Lindsay that Carl has made up his mind to break up and she doesn’t want to argue with him anymore. She goes to her room to call her dad. “He showed up to the conversation already with a decision and was not looking to repair anything. Did not want to listen to my perspective at all and then told me he wants to call off the wedding and break up.”
Lindsay’s father thinks there’s more to Carl’s decision because something like this doesn’t just happen over a couple of weeks.
Carl, who hears Lindsay’s conversation, tells a producer, “This isn’t all of a sudden … She’s again blind to the things that have gone on the last year.”
He says that they’ve gotten noise complaints about their fighting. “I’m always going to lose. I mean, she’s going to spin and tell everybody she’s blindsided and she’s caught off guard. I’m going to be the asshole again. My life will be canceled but she’ll be the fallen woman who everybody is going to feel sorry for.”
Postmortem at Danielle Olivera’s house
Two days later, the press is all over Carl and Lindsay’s breakup. Paige DeSorbo and Amanda Batula have reconvened at Danielle’s. She tells them that Lindsay and Carl were not good after the Hamptons and he didn’t want to talk on the way home.
Danielle found out about the breakup when Lindsay called her on Thursday. Amanda breaks the fourth wall when she reveals that Kyle got a call from Carl asking him to film. When Kyle came back home, he told Amanda that things were bad between Carl and Lindsay.
Paige told the girls that she texted Carl, who wrote back, “I feel horrible that it’s like I blindsided her or maliciously had cameras set up so I can break things off, which is not what I was trying to do. No one believes him.
Gabby thinks Carl is the bad guy, while Amanda argues that both he and Lindsay say f*cked up things to each other.
Ciara has entered the chat and she asks Danielle what her thoughts are, given her close relationship with both Lindsay and Carl. But also, she was not allowed to say anything last season because they were in their love bubble.
“I would never do ‘I told you so,’ because at this point Lindsay and I are good, and when she told me, I immediately like, started crying,” Danielle says. “My heart broke for her.”
Amanda feels for Carl and says it took “strength” for him to break up with Lindsay. Come on, Amanda! “It takes something. I wouldn’t call it strength,” Gabby mutters.
The Summer House girls rally around Lindsay Hubbard
Lindsay arrives at Danielle’s apartment and she’s immediately greeted with love. “He did you a favor, please. You didn’t want to marry that man anyway,” Paige tells Lindsay.
Lindsay cries, “I just can’t understand this. Like, I cannot understand this. Like, how could you do this to your best friend of eight years? Like, you absolutely humiliated me. You f*cking blindsided me without, like, warning.”
She tells the group that she’s loved Carl for years and was just waiting for him to be ready as a partner. Amanda jumps in and says that Lindsay and Carl’s problems have gone on for a while. “He did you a favor. Let him go,” Paige tells Lindsay.
The girls all tell Lindsay to go to Mexico anyway and that they’ll all go with her “Sex and the City” style. Everyone’s down and Lindsay finally invites Paige to her non-wedding. Huzzah!
